EVO VIDEO 07: OPEN CHAT FEB 17 AT 4PM SAN FRANCISCO TIME. THANKS SERGIO AND BERNARDO! GREAT TALKING WITH YOU! RYAN 2007.02.17 15:56:39
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DavidWe: Hi, Ryan. Welcome
RyanDe: Hello David and Bjb
BJB2 waves hi to Ryan
DavidWe: Anything we can help you with, Ryan?
BJB2: Ryan is leading the EVO discussion, David
DavidWe smiles
RyanDe: might have a chat today
RyanDe . o O ( I wonder if anyone will show up )
BJB2: so anyone who logs in and is an ESL/EFL teacher needs to be sent
to Ryan's office
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DavidWe acknowledges that
DavidWe waves to erin
RyanDe: Hi Erin
DavidWe: Hi, Erin. Welcome
BJB2: usually people will log in earlier if they're attending your
sessions, Ryan.
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RyanDe: We're suppsed to meet at 4
RyanDe: in a couple minutes..
BJB2 nods.
RyanDe: Where does the tour start from bjb?
DavidWe: Where in the world are you, Ryan?
BJB2: I can announce for you or you can join the tour
RyanDe: San Francisco
BJB2: my tour starts in the ASO
DavidWe used to live in Oakland/Berkeley 20 years ago
RyanDe: Where is the ASO
DavidWe: next door
RyanDe: where are you now David?
DavidWe: Passageway from Reception
DavidWe: I'm at my sister's house, now, in Bucks County, PA - north of
Philadelphia
SergioMa joined the room.
RyanDe: Hi Sergio!
DavidWe: Friend of mine is a chef in Oakland - lives in Lafayette
DavidWe waves to Sergio
SergioMa: Hi Ryan and All!
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RyanDe: how are things this morning in Japan?
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BJB2: Hi, Ashley
SergioMa: Cloudy weather. Otherwise fine.
DavidWe waves to Ashley
DavidWe: Hi, Ashley. Welcome
RyanDe: Hi Ashly, are you here for the evo chat?
BJB2: Ashley, above this chat window on the right is Featured
Passageways
DavidWe guesses probably not
BJB2: click on After School Online
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DavidWe: She did
RyanDe: I don't know if Sue or Geoff or others will join the chat
today, Sergio
RyanDe: guess we'll just hang out for awhile and see ..
DavidWe: Where in SF do you live, Ryan?
SergioMa: That's a pity. Well, we will chat anyway, won't we?
RyanDe: in japantown, near Fillmore
RyanDe: Yes, sergio :)
DavidWe smiles
RyanDe: Sergio, bjb taught me this cool TI trick
DavidWe: My cousin lives in Marin, now, but had an amazing place about
Haight-Ashbury, looking north towards the Golden Gate Bridge
SergioMa: Yeas
RyanDe: do you know how to do thought bubbles?
SergioMa: No
RyanDe: type /th and then a thought
DavidWe . o O ( deep thoughts )
SergioMa . o O ( no noe else is going to show up this morning )
RyanDe: I wish I had an amazing place near there, Dave. You cousin is
in a fun area
RyanDe . o O ( I don't know )
RyanDe: Romeo from Morroco was here earlier
DavidWe: He now lives in a house in Mill Valley - his wife is a
neurobiologist at UCSF
RyanDe: but because of the schedule change, he could come back later
DavidWe: He's a writer
SergioMa: I see
RyanDe: David, are you a TI moderator like bjb?
DavidWe: I'm also one of the HelpDesk volunteers, Ryan
DavidWe: I lead a math education discussion
RyanDe: I understand bjb is going to lead a tour..
DavidWe: I met Bj in (1998?) in the Hershey Hotel in Hershey, PA
RyanDe: could you please send people to my office if they show up?
DavidWe: She helped me do a presentation about Tapped In
DavidWe: Yes, Ryan. I'll be happy to send them to your office
RyanDe: You Penn people are very friendly and helpful :)
RyanDe . o O ( I'm going to click on this, but last time I tried a link
I got disconnected from TI. If it happens again I'll be right back )
SergioMa: Fine
RyanDe: it's opening in safari
RyanDe: slowly
RyanDe: got it
RyanDe: Welcome to the website of the International Student Slideshow
Exchange Project!
RyanDe: This site aims to help ESL/EFL teachers from different
countries to exchange video slideshows created by their students.
RyanDe: Teachers who join the project can use the resources on the site
to plan, discuss, and coordinate ESL/EFL activities related to the
slideshows.
RyanDe: Slideshows can be created with a digital camera, a computer,
and a microphone. No other equipment is necessary. However, by
supplementing the spoken or written word with images, they can greatly enhance
the quality of communication across cultures.
SergioMa: Yes
RyanDe just copied and pasted the text
SergioMa: It worked
SergioMa: There are forums inside
RyanDe: Sergio, this is great.
SergioMa: But one has to register to use them
RyanDe: Have you seen Cora's lesson plan on Week 3 or 4 page?
SergioMa: Thanks, it is still at the beginning
SergioMa: I think so, but off the top of my head
SergioMa: I do not recall exactly what it was
RyanDe: Overview:
RyanDe: This lesson shows students how to learn about other cultures
through documentary films.
RyanDe copied and pasted the text
SergioMa: Oh, yes
SergioMa: That's what I would like to do
RyanDe: slide shows could be a gate way for in-class discussion and
discovery of other people, places, cultures
SergioMa: I limited it to slideshows because they are easier to make
RyanDe: sharing cultures esl/efl style
RyanDe: I think that is a good idea
SergioMa: We are on the same wavelength
SergioMa: I made registration easy
SergioMa: Do you think it is ok?
RyanDe: what do you mean by 'easy'? I think it's ok
RyanDe: I've never signed up to a moodle before.
SergioMa: Well, I do not check who people are
RyanDe: got it.
SergioMa: On my college system it would be unthinkable
SergioMa: Here, you can register as the Duke of Wellington if you like
SergioMa: As long as you provide a real email address
RyanDe: but that sounds pretty normal... a "username"
RyanDe: if someone was Duke of Wellington as their user name, I guess
they could have it, right?
RyanDe: But then again..
RyanDe: .. can you add a profiles page to the moodle?
SergioMa: Every use has a profile
RyanDe: You class might be very interested in seeing pictures and
reading bios of students in another class in a different part of the world.
SergioMa: They can add any information they want to it
RyanDe: Sergio, that's great!
SergioMa: You can register and see
RyanDe: They could -- it sounds like -- have their on blog or vlog page
on the moodle. Is that right?
SergioMa: Yes
RyanDe: Wow.
RyanDe: How would users keep in touch?
RyanDe: I mean what if your class makes and posts a new video. How
would you inform other members?
SergioMa: All posts to forums are forwarded to the email address
SergioMa: with which they registered
SergioMa: I could send a message to all members
RyanDe: Can a moodle be used commercially?
RyanDe: .. could you host google ads or the like?
SergioMa: Yes, there are many examples of this
RyanDe: hmmm...
RyanDe: You must see the quiz app.
RyanDe: Is there another computer at school that you could try from?
SergioMa: Moodle has very powerful quiz functions out of the box, btw
RyanDe: very interesting
SergioMa: In addtion, one can import Hot Potatoes Quizzes
SergioMa: Which gives you a lot of flexibility
RyanDe: true
RyanDe: I like hot potatoes
SergioMa: So do I
RyanDe: but the quiz app allows any registered user to create a quiz
based on any YouTube video
RyanDe: not the prettiest, and might not even work on your computer..
did it load?
SergioMa: Yes, looks fine
RyanDe: those are hot potatoes quizzes
SergioMa: Indeed.
RyanDe: I didn't like having to deal with the javascript, though, in
building each quiz. So, in web tech 2, I made a php application that does
the same thing via a web form.
SergioMa: I see
RyanDe: You mentioned before that we'd have to 'advertise'
SergioMa: Yes, I mean among the teachers
RyanDe: the quiz app might be a very good way to advertise the moodle.
SergioMa: How
BernardoH joined the room.
RyanDe: among esl teachers, the quiz app may have a chance of becoming
a useful tool for creating web based quizzes for all levels.
RyanDe: Hi Bernardo
BernardoH: hello ryan
SergioMa: Hi, Bernardo
BernardoH: hello sergio
BernardoH: has this session started yet?
SergioMa: Sort of
RyanDe: the quiz app, coupled with the moodle, might bring more teacher
in contact wiith the idea of class community.
RyanDe: world esl/efl class community
RyanDe: how are things in Mexico city?
BernardoH: fine
BernardoH: getting warmer
BernardoH: Ryan did you design the video quiz page?
RyanDe: yes
RyanDe: we were just talking about it
BernardoH: what did you use?
RyanDe: php
RyanDe: code
BernardoH: moodle?
SergioMa: Yes, but how would you couple them. Do you mean that you
would put an advertisement on your site? I would of course do the same on
mine?
RyanDe: Yes. I would ideally like to add the quiz app to eslvideo.com
AND the functionality you describe via moodle.
RyanDe: Plus, resources for teachers like video production lesson plans
and video production resources.
BernardoH: are u going to store the videos on a data base?
SergioMa: Sounds awesome!
RyanDe: All of the videos, currently, are hosted by YouTube
RyanDe: Remember my questions about Rated R videos?
BernardoH: no
RyanDe: One concern was that some of the language of YouTube videos
might offend students and teachers.
BernardoH: of course
RyanDe: As is, YouTubes content policy is pretty strict.
BernardoH: and blip.tv
SergioMa: Yes, but if you embed the videos you want on your site, they
do not need to go to you tube
RyanDe: It's much easier just to create a quiz by copying and pasting
the embed tag of YouTube video in the web form and take it from there.
RyanDe: No uploading, no hosting. The video is already on the web.
BernardoH: the strategy followed by the daily english show could be
useful
RyanDe: Saves time and money.
SergioMa: That work on Moodle as well
RyanDe: Sarah is interested in adding quizzes regularly. Mike Marzio
too.
RyanDe: Sergio, sounds like I ought to investigate Moodle and keep
talking with you about collaboration.
BernardoH: I mean openning Channels or Vlogs
RyanDe: channels is a very interesting idea.
SergioMa: Well, you could go to Moodle.org and study about Moodle over
there
BernardoH: maybe openning channels by levels and topics...
SergioMa: I will be glad to share the little I know
SergioMa: But there are really capable people in the Moodle community
RyanDe: I'll have to check it out. Sounds like the way to go.
SergioMa: For the moment, can I announce my site on the EVOVIDEO board?
RyanDe: Absolutely!
SergioMa: As a way to continue our discussions after the seminar is
over
RyanDe: Bernardo, I'll paste the text from Sergio's home page here:
SergioMa: I am just building it now, Bernardo
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SergioMa: Oh dear, the link issue
BernardoH joined the room.
RyanDe: Welcome to the website of the International Student Slideshow
Exchange Project!
RyanDe: This site aims to help ESL/EFL teachers from different
countries to exchange video slideshows created by their students.
RyanDe: Teachers who join the project can use the resources on the site
to plan, discuss, and coordinate ESL/EFL activities related to the
slideshows.
RyanDe: Slideshows can be created with a digital camera, a computer,
and a microphone. No other equipment is necessary. However, by
supplementing the spoken or written word with images, they can greatly enhance
the quality of communication across cultures.
SergioMa: Bernardo, welcome back
RyanDe: We are interested in starting a community for teacher and
students who are creating video projects to share their work with eachother.
RyanDe: The idea would be to learn about other cultures - in living
color
BernardoH: it seems that once you design one, only one student at a
time can use them
RyanDe: Bernardo, did you try creating a quiz with the quiz
application?
BernardoH: if you have more than ten students it freezes
RyanDe: Could you link quizzes made there to your moodle?
BernardoH: yes
SergioMa: That's weird. On my college site, hundreds take the same
lesson
RyanDe: might be an equipment thing..
BernardoH: it must beserver problems, then
SergioMa: The freezing depends on how you host your site
BernardoH: I rent IP
SergioMa: Lessons are database intensive
RyanDe: Guys, my son just came home and he's crying. I'll be right
back.
RyanDe: Ok?
BernardoH: ok
RyanDe: maybe three minutes.
SergioMa: Of course
BernardoH: I still can't connect to your site..
SergioMa: Try typng the address in the browser
BernardoH: i'll do
SergioMa: This is a site I created to interact with other teachers
BernardoH: why deepmoat?
SergioMa: I simply happened to own that domain
SergioMa: It is the translation of my wifeA's family name
BernardoH: any thing special about the name?
SergioMa: I once hosted a site for my niece on that domain
SergioMa: It was a family thing
BernardoH: So you want to specialize on video made by students?
SergioMa: Yes
BernardoH: I saw your video, it's very good quality..
SergioMa: Thanks. It was my first video. I tought it would be nice to
use student videos for intercultural communication
BernardoH: what camera do you use?
SergioMa: A simple still camera, a Nikon E5400
BernardoH: 32mm
SergioMa: It has a zoom, but at wide it would be 32mm
RyanDe: I'm back.. He's ok. Just three years old and cranky. We got him
some chocolate soy milk and he's happy now.
SergioMa: Good
RyanDe: Sergio, at what point would you ask your students to add video
to their projects? Or ever?
SergioMa: Please do not hesitate to leave again
RyanDe smiles
SergioMa: I will start teaching the class in April
SergioMa: So I think they should be ready by June
RyanDe: Bernardo, are you interested at all in having your students
produce videos.. or are you primarily interested in creating content FOR
your students to use in class?
BernardoH: I've been having problems getting the students to do the
videos.
BernardoH: I work with university and adult students, not highschool
students
SergioMa: Are they shy?
RyanDe: What kind of videos are you asking them to make?
RyanDe: documentaries can be fairly serious
BernardoH: they're too immersed in their subjects and very little
interest in English
RyanDe: and relate lots of valuable cutltural information
RyanDe: ahhh...
RyanDe: how about the commercial project. It's "fun"
SergioMa: Slideshows would also be easy
RyanDe: what do they study? Math, history, science?
BernardoH: I work in a Research Center for Economics and Public
Administration
BernardoH: they're overwhelmed with non deterministic mathematical
models
SergioMa: Well, since they are so brainy
SergioMa: an easy topic should be feasible for them
SergioMa: not take too much of their time
SergioMa: especially if they work in groups
RyanDe: could perhaps have the slide show relate to them personally OR
to some aspect of the public space?
BernardoH: I'm trying to design a predicate logic based course, based
on a semantic perspective and moving into different gramatical points of
view
SergioMa: I see.
RyanDe: What could be some uses of video in this course?
BernardoH: that's why I want to include simultaneous interpretation
RyanDe: What level are your students?
RyanDe: sounds like they might be high-intermediate to advanced..
SergioMa: That is a specialized skills generally not required of
economics graduates
BernardoH: movie maker has the ability of turning up one audio and
reducing another, maybe by switching from one audio to another i could get
them interested
SergioMa: Simultaneous interpretation, I mean
BernardoH: right
SergioMa: It requires very intensive training to the exclusion of much
else
RyanDe: I don't even know what it is ~
RyanDe: what is "simultaneous interpretation"?
BernardoH: what i haven't figured out yet is how to upload the audio
switch on the vidoe projection of upoutube
SergioMa: I guess you can't
BernardoH: switching from one language to another simultaneously
SergioMa: You tube was not designed for that
SergioMa: It changes your videos to flash
BernardoH: right
RyanDe: what level are your students?
BernardoH: can you do it with flashmaker?
BernardoH: intermediate to low advanced
RyanDe: do you mean, switch from spanish to english on the fly?
BernardoH: you got it
RyanDe: let me think about that, I think you can...
SergioMa: I suppose if you write your own flash app, you can do
anything
BernardoH: you should be able to, since moviemaker is quite simple
BernardoH: maybe with adobe?
BernardoH: there has to be some software
SergioMa: Maybe. That costs a bundle, though
RyanDe: Yes, Bernardo. Sergio is right. with flash, you can do it --
yes, very expensive
RyanDe: and not easy to learn --- at all.
BernardoH: well, i think it's a matter of only uploading the executable
that switches audio
SergioMa: I doubt it is that simple
SergioMa: Anyway, if you have a reserach grant
SergioMa: You can pay someone to figure it out
RyanDe: Would they be code switching (is 'code switching the same thing
as Simultaneous Interpretation?) in class... or practicing in a
computer lab?
BernardoH: no
RyanDe listens
BernardoH: it's a bilingual function, two different languages meeting
at the same semantic spaces
SergioMa: Your project is so advanced I would apply for a grant
RyanDe: online, or in class practice?
SergioMa: Bernardo means that as one speaks a language the interpreter
translates into another like at the UN
BernardoH: right
SergioMa: Training for this is generally dono in labs
RyanDe: Thanks Sergio :)
RyanDe: labs. OK
SergioMa: One needs to clock in hundereds of hours to qualify
BernardoH: that's right
BernardoH: but there's some substance that'sapplicable to ESL
learning/teaching
BernardoH: an ESL student already has one language under control
RyanDe listens
SergioMa: hopefully
BernardoH: it's a matter of building skills on those possessed
BernardoH: they don't need to go the full ten yards
RyanDe: Would you start with slow-speach videos?
BernardoH: unless they want to work in the UN
BernardoH: maybe
RyanDe: You could build that application that you are talking about
with Adobe Flash. -or-hire someone to do it.
BernardoH: with some shadowing exercises
RyanDe: The videos / lessons could get progressively faster, more
complicated etc
BernardoH: maybe
SergioMa: I would recommend the latter. Flash is tricky.
SergioMa: I am told.
RyanDe: It could be a set of resources that you develop or pay to have
developed for use over several years. Yes?
BernardoH: that's one way to go...
RyanDe: It is, Sergio. Miles away from from plug and play.
LauraZu joined the room.
RyanDe: Hi Laura
SergioMa: Hi, Laura
BernardoH: hi laura
RyanDe: Are you here for the evo video chat?
LauraZu: no...i'm just searching for my class
BernardoH: it would be some sort of interactive video, user freindly
RyanDe: Well, Bernardo, sounds like you are interested in developing
video-based resources for lab/class use rather than student video
production. But..
SergioMa: Laura,people at the reception should be able to help you
RyanDe: Maybe they could demonstrate "simultaneous interpretation" on
video?
RyanDe: Would that be possible?
SergioMa: That would be cool!
BernardoH: I'm not a programmer
LauraZu: what are you all here for?
RyanDe: We're participants of an online session... just chatting :)
BernardoH: what course are u looking for?
LauraZu: well...I didn't mean that I'm litarally searching for them
(lol)....I'm searching tapped in as a requirement for the course.
SergioMa: You will not find your course here, that's for sure
SergioMa: You should go to the reception
RyanDe: Sergio, let's talk more about this platform of interculltural
communication in the coming weeks. I think there is a lot of room for
collaboration there.
SergioMa: Yes, I am all ears
RyanDe: Laura, what is the class that you are taking?
RyanDe: Communications?
LauraZu: special problems in instructional technology.
LauraZu: i'm a special education teacher and I'm taking courses in IT.
SergioMa: That's not here
LauraZu: thanks.
RyanDe: yeah.. that's not here. sorry. I don't know TI well enough to
point you in the right direction. Maybe David or BJB in the reception
area can be of more help.
BernardoH: try MTEC-AC_Grp
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SergioMa: Ryan, you were sayiing...
RyanDe: Bernardo, what about that idea of having your students
translate on the fly -- on video?
RyanDe: I think I've got it. Let me type this out...
BernardoH: specify "fly"
SergioMa: Maybe on the fly would result in a great big noise on camera
SergioMa: But perhaps a little consecutive interpretation may look
impressive
BernardoH: better
SergioMa: Your students xcould get personal satisfaction
SergioMa: A feeling of achievement
SergioMa: by appearing on video doiung that
BernardoH: My idea is that a student could be watching a presentation
on video and be able to switch languages with a tool embeded on the
video screen
RyanDe: I was thinking you could edit together a couple clips. Spanish
and English, into one video. There could be different versions of this
video. A/ B/ C/
BernardoH: with a link
SergioMa: I see, that is your project, but I was thinking of your
students producing a video to motivate others
RyanDe: You're students could watch the video in the lab -- the part
that is in Spanish, they'd translate to English, and when the video
switched to English, they'd jump into Spanish.. If you recorded their
translations... would that work as a decent tool for practice?
FlorNM joined the room.
FlorNM: Hi
RyanDe: Hi Flor :)
BernardoH: Hi flor
RyanDe: Are you here for the evo video chat?
RyanDe: any how.. Bernardo.. that might be an easier way of going about
it.
FlorNM: I have not video cameras and I don't know what evo means
SergioMa: Then, you are in the wrong room
BernardoH: The students could watch the video in Spanish, then exercise
a summary in English and then check the English interpretation
RyanDe: OK flor. You're welcome to hang out.
RyanDe: sounds like the beginning of several good ideas.
SergioMa: Doesn't it?
SergioMa: I love this seminar. I wish it never ended
BernardoH: your idea of several copies of the same video but with
different audio might work
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RyanDe: If you got a speach online -- the same speach -- say a UN
speach or the like, and you found two versions of this speach, that is, one
in English and anotther in Spanish (translated) -- you could import
those clips into Movie Maker and edit several versions.
RyanDe: The idea is, that instead of creating an application that
allows the student to switch the audio, you edit together a video that has
those audio changes hardwired.
SergioMa: For example, I read the stuff on photography Ryan
recommended, went out, and took the best shots in my life (not that they are
great, but there is improvement!)
BernardoH: yes the UN page is full of different language versions with
the same speaker
RyanDe smiles
RyanDe: can you download them?
BernardoH: I'll try one out
BernardoH: no
SergioMa: You can do a screen capture
RyanDe: hmmm... well, we'll have to find other sources.
BernardoH: you could use close caption on cable tv
RyanDe: Sergio, could you recommend a screen capture software?
RyanDe: Sergio, very glad to hear you followed up on golden hour and
color temperature.
SergioMa: I do not use one, but I can get back to you on this. There
are people who do
SergioMa: Thanks, Ryan
RyanDe: Bernardo, maybe next week if I have a chance I'll see if I can
find something and put together an example of what I mean.
BernardoH: are there problems with copyrights?
RyanDe: yes, most likely.
SergioMa: If you put the stuff on the web, yes
BernardoH: that's why it might be preferable to do my own
translations..
RyanDe: That would work very well too.
BernardoH: that would be great Ryan
RyanDe: You could record a speach in Spanish with clean audio. Then, in
editing, you could mute the videos audio track and lay down your own
translation in english. Then, export that video as "Speach_2"
RyanDe: Then, you could open a new project and import both "Speach_1"
and "Speach_2".
RyanDe: The video will be the same. Only the audio will be different.
BernardoH: and then follow with a comprehension quizz
RyanDe: You could have the first 20 seconds of the video be in Spanish,
the cut to English, then back.. etc.
BernardoH: I was thinking it might be better to follow paragraph
structure, rather than sentence structure
SergioMa: I would agree on that
BernardoH: 20 seconds is too short
RyanDe: Chaging subjects because I have to go soon.... Sergio, Kayo and
I will be flying to Japan in March. Would be great to meet, but I think
Nagasaki is too far to travel in the short amount of time that we'll be
there...
BernardoH: 1 minute to 1 and a half
RyanDe: At least the idea is there :)
RyanDe: Hope that helps. I think you could develop it in several
ways...
SergioMa: I see. I would also like to meet you. How long would you be
here for?
RyanDe: Glad to help. I love brainstorming
BernardoH: well, it's been a good session
RyanDe: I'll only be there for four days. Kayo will stay for a month
or two.
RyanDe: Yes it really has Bernardo!
SergioMa: An excellent one as far as I am concerned
RyanDe: Thanks so much for coming!
SergioMa: Thank you Ryan and Bernardo
BernardoH: thank you both, Ryan and Sergio
RyanDe: I too have to go soon. Thank you both Bernardo and Sergio! :)
BernardoH: So do I, have a nice weekend in SF
RyanDe: OK. Dinner calls. Let's pick this up again next Saturday. Yes?
SergioMa: I look forward to seeing you both on Yahoo Groups and on my
new site! Please register. Bye
BernardoH: great
RyanDe: I will. Chow
BernardoH: I will do so
BernardoH: Chao
RyanDe waves
SergioMa: Thanks a lot. Bye!
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RyanDe: Hey Jeff. Just dropped in to say hello. Our meeting went very
well. Thank much for TI!
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DavidWe: Hi, Ryan. Welcome
RyanDe: Hello David and Bjb
BJB2 waves hi to Ryan
DavidWe: Anything we can help you with, Ryan?
BJB2: Ryan is leading the EVO discussion, David
DavidWe smiles
RyanDe: might have a chat today
RyanDe . o O ( I wonder if anyone will show up )
BJB2: so anyone who logs in and is an ESL/EFL teacher needs to be sent
to Ryan's office
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DavidWe acknowledges that
DavidWe waves to erin
RyanDe: Hi Erin
DavidWe: Hi, Erin. Welcome
BJB2: usually people will log in earlier if they're attending your
sessions, Ryan.
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RyanDe: We're suppsed to meet at 4
RyanDe: in a couple minutes..
BJB2 nods.
RyanDe: Where does the tour start from bjb?
DavidWe: Where in the world are you, Ryan?
BJB2: I can announce for you or you can join the tour
RyanDe: San Francisco
BJB2: my tour starts in the ASO
DavidWe used to live in Oakland/Berkeley 20 years ago
RyanDe: Where is the ASO
DavidWe: next door
RyanDe: where are you now David?
DavidWe: Passageway from Reception
DavidWe: I'm at my sister's house, now, in Bucks County, PA - north of
Philadelphia
SergioMa joined the room.
RyanDe: Hi Sergio!
DavidWe: Friend of mine is a chef in Oakland - lives in Lafayette
DavidWe waves to Sergio
SergioMa: Hi Ryan and All!
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RyanDe: how are things this morning in Japan?
AshleyTH joined the room.
BJB2: Hi, Ashley
SergioMa: Cloudy weather. Otherwise fine.
DavidWe waves to Ashley
DavidWe: Hi, Ashley. Welcome
RyanDe: Hi Ashly, are you here for the evo chat?
BJB2: Ashley, above this chat window on the right is Featured
Passageways
DavidWe guesses probably not
BJB2: click on After School Online
AshleyTH left the room.
DavidWe: She did
RyanDe: I don't know if Sue or Geoff or others will join the chat
today, Sergio
RyanDe: guess we'll just hang out for awhile and see ..
DavidWe: Where in SF do you live, Ryan?
SergioMa: That's a pity. Well, we will chat anyway, won't we?
RyanDe: in japantown, near Fillmore
RyanDe: Yes, sergio :)
DavidWe smiles
RyanDe: Sergio, bjb taught me this cool TI trick
DavidWe: My cousin lives in Marin, now, but had an amazing place about
Haight-Ashbury, looking north towards the Golden Gate Bridge
SergioMa: Yeas
RyanDe: do you know how to do thought bubbles?
SergioMa: No
RyanDe: type /th and then a thought
DavidWe . o O ( deep thoughts )
SergioMa . o O ( no noe else is going to show up this morning )
RyanDe: I wish I had an amazing place near there, Dave. You cousin is
in a fun area
RyanDe . o O ( I don't know )
RyanDe: Romeo from Morroco was here earlier
DavidWe: He now lives in a house in Mill Valley - his wife is a
neurobiologist at UCSF
RyanDe: but because of the schedule change, he could come back later
DavidWe: He's a writer
SergioMa: I see
RyanDe: David, are you a TI moderator like bjb?
DavidWe: I'm also one of the HelpDesk volunteers, Ryan
DavidWe: I lead a math education discussion
RyanDe: I understand bjb is going to lead a tour..
DavidWe: I met Bj in (1998?) in the Hershey Hotel in Hershey, PA
RyanDe: could you please send people to my office if they show up?
DavidWe: She helped me do a presentation about Tapped In
DavidWe: Yes, Ryan. I'll be happy to send them to your office
RyanDe: You Penn people are very friendly and helpful :)
SergioMa: Ditto
RyanDe: Sergio, lets go to my office
SergioMa: Yes
RyanDe: Thanks David and bjb
SergioMa: Thanks from me too!
DavidWe smiles
DavidWe: You're welcome
RyanDe left the room.
Room: RyanDe_Ofc
RyanDe joined the room.
SergioMa joined the room.
SergioMa: Pretty thin on the gound
RyanDe: I wish you could have seen the quiz app
SergioMa: I tried again, but no joy
SergioMa: I can now see your iFrame message
SergioMa: but it still does not work
RyanDe: I really don't know why
RyanDe: but will figure it out :)
RyanDe: Tell me about your site
SergioMa: That's the trouble with computers
RyanDe: chotto matte
SergioMa: I can show you the site
SergioMa: Ok, I will wait
RyanDe: I'm back.
RyanDe: What is the link?
SergioMa: http://www.deepmoat.com/moodle/
SergioMa: It is still rough
RyanDe . o O ( I'm going to click on this, but last time I tried a link
I got disconnected from TI. If it happens again I'll be right back )
SergioMa: Fine
RyanDe: it's opening in safari
RyanDe: slowly
RyanDe: got it
RyanDe: Welcome to the website of the International Student Slideshow
Exchange Project!
RyanDe: This site aims to help ESL/EFL teachers from different
countries to exchange video slideshows created by their students.
RyanDe: Teachers who join the project can use the resources on the site
to plan, discuss, and coordinate ESL/EFL activities related to the
slideshows.
RyanDe: Slideshows can be created with a digital camera, a computer,
and a microphone. No other equipment is necessary. However, by
supplementing the spoken or written word with images, they can greatly enhance
the quality of communication across cultures.
SergioMa: Yes
RyanDe just copied and pasted the text
SergioMa: It worked
SergioMa: There are forums inside
RyanDe: Sergio, this is great.
SergioMa: But one has to register to use them
RyanDe: Have you seen Cora's lesson plan on Week 3 or 4 page?
SergioMa: Thanks, it is still at the beginning
SergioMa: I think so, but off the top of my head
SergioMa: I do not recall exactly what it was
RyanDe: Overview:
RyanDe: This lesson shows students how to learn about other cultures
through documentary films.
RyanDe copied and pasted the text
SergioMa: Oh, yes
SergioMa: That's what I would like to do
RyanDe: slide shows could be a gate way for in-class discussion and
discovery of other people, places, cultures
SergioMa: I limited it to slideshows because they are easier to make
RyanDe: sharing cultures esl/efl style
RyanDe: I think that is a good idea
SergioMa: We are on the same wavelength
SergioMa: I made registration easy
SergioMa: Do you think it is ok?
RyanDe: what do you mean by 'easy'? I think it's ok
RyanDe: I've never signed up to a moodle before.
SergioMa: Well, I do not check who people are
RyanDe: got it.
SergioMa: On my college system it would be unthinkable
SergioMa: Here, you can register as the Duke of Wellington if you like
SergioMa: As long as you provide a real email address
RyanDe: but that sounds pretty normal... a "username"
RyanDe: if someone was Duke of Wellington as their user name, I guess
they could have it, right?
RyanDe: But then again..
RyanDe: .. can you add a profiles page to the moodle?
SergioMa: Every use has a profile
RyanDe: You class might be very interested in seeing pictures and
reading bios of students in another class in a different part of the world.
SergioMa: They can add any information they want to it
RyanDe: Sergio, that's great!
SergioMa: You can register and see
RyanDe: They could -- it sounds like -- have their on blog or vlog page
on the moodle. Is that right?
SergioMa: Yes
RyanDe: Wow.
RyanDe: How would users keep in touch?
RyanDe: I mean what if your class makes and posts a new video. How
would you inform other members?
SergioMa: All posts to forums are forwarded to the email address
SergioMa: with which they registered
SergioMa: I could send a message to all members
RyanDe: Can a moodle be used commercially?
RyanDe: .. could you host google ads or the like?
SergioMa: Yes, there are many examples of this
RyanDe: hmmm...
RyanDe: You must see the quiz app.
RyanDe: Is there another computer at school that you could try from?
SergioMa: Moodle has very powerful quiz functions out of the box, btw
RyanDe: very interesting
SergioMa: In addtion, one can import Hot Potatoes Quizzes
SergioMa: Which gives you a lot of flexibility
RyanDe: true
RyanDe: I like hot potatoes
SergioMa: So do I
RyanDe: but the quiz app allows any registered user to create a quiz
based on any YouTube video
RyanDe: I think it is even MORE flexible
SergioMa: That's really cool, Ryan!
RyanDe: Have you seen this site: http://www.surfingenglish.com
SergioMa: No
RyanDe: I made it during my web-tech one class
SergioMa: I will check it
RyanDe: not the prettiest, and might not even work on your computer..
did it load?
SergioMa: Yes, looks fine
RyanDe: those are hot potatoes quizzes
SergioMa: Indeed.
RyanDe: I didn't like having to deal with the javascript, though, in
building each quiz. So, in web tech 2, I made a php application that does
the same thing via a web form.
SergioMa: I see
RyanDe: You mentioned before that we'd have to 'advertise'
SergioMa: Yes, I mean among the teachers
RyanDe: the quiz app might be a very good way to advertise the moodle.
SergioMa: How
BernardoH joined the room.
RyanDe: among esl teachers, the quiz app may have a chance of becoming
a useful tool for creating web based quizzes for all levels.
RyanDe: Hi Bernardo
BernardoH: hello ryan
SergioMa: Hi, Bernardo
BernardoH: hello sergio
BernardoH: has this session started yet?
SergioMa: Sort of
RyanDe: the quiz app, coupled with the moodle, might bring more teacher
in contact wiith the idea of class community.
RyanDe: world esl/efl class community
RyanDe: how are things in Mexico city?
BernardoH: fine
BernardoH: getting warmer
BernardoH: Ryan did you design the video quiz page?
RyanDe: yes
RyanDe: we were just talking about it
BernardoH: what did you use?
RyanDe: php
RyanDe: code
BernardoH: moodle?
SergioMa: Yes, but how would you couple them. Do you mean that you
would put an advertisement on your site? I would of course do the same on
mine?
RyanDe: Yes. I would ideally like to add the quiz app to eslvideo.com
AND the functionality you describe via moodle.
RyanDe: Plus, resources for teachers like video production lesson plans
and video production resources.
BernardoH: are u going to store the videos on a data base?
SergioMa: Sounds awesome!
RyanDe: All of the videos, currently, are hosted by YouTube
RyanDe: Remember my questions about Rated R videos?
BernardoH: no
RyanDe: One concern was that some of the language of YouTube videos
might offend students and teachers.
BernardoH: of course
RyanDe: As is, YouTubes content policy is pretty strict.
BernardoH: and blip.tv
SergioMa: Yes, but if you embed the videos you want on your site, they
do not need to go to you tube
RyanDe: It's much easier just to create a quiz by copying and pasting
the embed tag of YouTube video in the web form and take it from there.
RyanDe: No uploading, no hosting. The video is already on the web.
BernardoH: the strategy followed by the daily english show could be
useful
RyanDe: Saves time and money.
SergioMa: That work on Moodle as well
RyanDe: Sarah is interested in adding quizzes regularly. Mike Marzio
too.
RyanDe: Sergio, sounds like I ought to investigate Moodle and keep
talking with you about collaboration.
BernardoH: I mean openning Channels or Vlogs
RyanDe: channels is a very interesting idea.
SergioMa: Well, you could go to Moodle.org and study about Moodle over
there
BernardoH: maybe openning channels by levels and topics...
SergioMa: I will be glad to share the little I know
SergioMa: But there are really capable people in the Moodle community
RyanDe: I'll have to check it out. Sounds like the way to go.
SergioMa: For the moment, can I announce my site on the EVOVIDEO board?
RyanDe: Absolutely!
SergioMa: As a way to continue our discussions after the seminar is
over
SergioMa: Thanks
BernardoH: what's your site?
SergioMa: http://www.deepmoat.com/moodle/
RyanDe: Bernardo, I'll paste the text from Sergio's home page here:
SergioMa: I am just building it now, Bernardo
BernardoH left the room (signed off).
SergioMa: Oh dear, the link issue
BernardoH joined the room.
RyanDe: Welcome to the website of the International Student Slideshow
Exchange Project!
RyanDe: This site aims to help ESL/EFL teachers from different
countries to exchange video slideshows created by their students.
RyanDe: Teachers who join the project can use the resources on the site
to plan, discuss, and coordinate ESL/EFL activities related to the
slideshows.
RyanDe: Slideshows can be created with a digital camera, a computer,
and a microphone. No other equipment is necessary. However, by
supplementing the spoken or written word with images, they can greatly enhance
the quality of communication across cultures.
SergioMa: Bernardo, welcome back
RyanDe: We are interested in starting a community for teacher and
students who are creating video projects to share their work with eachother.
RyanDe: The idea would be to learn about other cultures - in living
color
BernardoH: how can I goto your site, sergio?
SergioMa: By clicking on the link I sent you
SergioMa: I will send it again
SergioMa: http://www.deepmoat.com/moodle/
RyanDe: sometimes you have to control+click, B
RyanDe: Sergio, have you seen Bernardo's moodle?
SergioMa: Yes
RyanDe: Sergio, do you speak Spanish?
SergioMa: He is an advanced moddler
BernardoH: no i'm not
RyanDe: Italian, English, Japanese..
SergioMa: No, but Italian is close to Spanish
BernardoH: I'm having problems with lessons
RyanDe: which lessons?
BernardoH: moodle lessons
SergioMa: What problems?
RyanDe: creating them?
BernardoH: it seems that once you design one, only one student at a
time can use them
RyanDe: Bernardo, did you try creating a quiz with the quiz
application?
BernardoH: if you have more than ten students it freezes
RyanDe: Could you link quizzes made there to your moodle?
BernardoH: yes
SergioMa: That's weird. On my college site, hundreds take the same
lesson
RyanDe: might be an equipment thing..
BernardoH: it must beserver problems, then
SergioMa: The freezing depends on how you host your site
BernardoH: I rent IP
SergioMa: Lessons are database intensive
RyanDe: Guys, my son just came home and he's crying. I'll be right
back.
RyanDe: Ok?
BernardoH: ok
RyanDe: maybe three minutes.
SergioMa: Of course
BernardoH: I still can't connect to your site..
SergioMa: Try typng the address in the browser
BernardoH: i'll do
SergioMa: This is a site I created to interact with other teachers
BernardoH: why deepmoat?
SergioMa: I simply happened to own that domain
SergioMa: It is the translation of my wifeA's family name
BernardoH: any thing special about the name?
SergioMa: I once hosted a site for my niece on that domain
SergioMa: It was a family thing
BernardoH: So you want to specialize on video made by students?
SergioMa: Yes
BernardoH: I saw your video, it's very good quality..
SergioMa: Thanks. It was my first video. I tought it would be nice to
use student videos for intercultural communication
BernardoH: what camera do you use?
SergioMa: A simple still camera, a Nikon E5400
BernardoH: 32mm
SergioMa: It has a zoom, but at wide it would be 32mm
RyanDe: I'm back.. He's ok. Just three years old and cranky. We got him
some chocolate soy milk and he's happy now.
SergioMa: Good
RyanDe: Sergio, at what point would you ask your students to add video
to their projects? Or ever?
SergioMa: Please do not hesitate to leave again
RyanDe smiles
SergioMa: I will start teaching the class in April
SergioMa: So I think they should be ready by June
RyanDe: Bernardo, are you interested at all in having your students
produce videos.. or are you primarily interested in creating content FOR
your students to use in class?
BernardoH: I've been having problems getting the students to do the
videos.
BernardoH: I work with university and adult students, not highschool
students
SergioMa: Are they shy?
RyanDe: What kind of videos are you asking them to make?
RyanDe: documentaries can be fairly serious
BernardoH: they're too immersed in their subjects and very little
interest in English
RyanDe: and relate lots of valuable cutltural information
RyanDe: ahhh...
RyanDe: how about the commercial project. It's "fun"
SergioMa: Slideshows would also be easy
RyanDe: what do they study? Math, history, science?
BernardoH: I work in a Research Center for Economics and Public
Administration
BernardoH: they're overwhelmed with non deterministic mathematical
models
SergioMa: Well, since they are so brainy
SergioMa: an easy topic should be feasible for them
SergioMa: not take too much of their time
SergioMa: especially if they work in groups
RyanDe: could perhaps have the slide show relate to them personally OR
to some aspect of the public space?
BernardoH: I'm trying to design a predicate logic based course, based
on a semantic perspective and moving into different gramatical points of
view
SergioMa: I see.
RyanDe: What could be some uses of video in this course?
BernardoH: that's why I want to include simultaneous interpretation
RyanDe: What level are your students?
RyanDe: sounds like they might be high-intermediate to advanced..
SergioMa: That is a specialized skills generally not required of
economics graduates
BernardoH: movie maker has the ability of turning up one audio and
reducing another, maybe by switching from one audio to another i could get
them interested
SergioMa: Simultaneous interpretation, I mean
BernardoH: right
SergioMa: It requires very intensive training to the exclusion of much
else
RyanDe: I don't even know what it is ~
RyanDe: what is "simultaneous interpretation"?
BernardoH: what i haven't figured out yet is how to upload the audio
switch on the vidoe projection of upoutube
SergioMa: I guess you can't
BernardoH: switching from one language to another simultaneously
SergioMa: You tube was not designed for that
SergioMa: It changes your videos to flash
BernardoH: right
RyanDe: what level are your students?
BernardoH: can you do it with flashmaker?
BernardoH: intermediate to low advanced
RyanDe: do you mean, switch from spanish to english on the fly?
BernardoH: you got it
RyanDe: let me think about that, I think you can...
SergioMa: I suppose if you write your own flash app, you can do
anything
BernardoH: you should be able to, since moviemaker is quite simple
BernardoH: maybe with adobe?
BernardoH: there has to be some software
SergioMa: Maybe. That costs a bundle, though
RyanDe: Yes, Bernardo. Sergio is right. with flash, you can do it --
yes, very expensive
RyanDe: and not easy to learn --- at all.
BernardoH: well, i think it's a matter of only uploading the executable
that switches audio
SergioMa: I doubt it is that simple
SergioMa: Anyway, if you have a reserach grant
SergioMa: You can pay someone to figure it out
RyanDe: Would they be code switching (is 'code switching the same thing
as Simultaneous Interpretation?) in class... or practicing in a
computer lab?
BernardoH: no
RyanDe listens
BernardoH: it's a bilingual function, two different languages meeting
at the same semantic spaces
SergioMa: Your project is so advanced I would apply for a grant
RyanDe: online, or in class practice?
SergioMa: Bernardo means that as one speaks a language the interpreter
translates into another like at the UN
BernardoH: right
SergioMa: Training for this is generally dono in labs
RyanDe: Thanks Sergio :)
RyanDe: labs. OK
SergioMa: One needs to clock in hundereds of hours to qualify
BernardoH: that's right
BernardoH: but there's some substance that'sapplicable to ESL
learning/teaching
BernardoH: an ESL student already has one language under control
RyanDe listens
SergioMa: hopefully
BernardoH: it's a matter of building skills on those possessed
BernardoH: they don't need to go the full ten yards
RyanDe: Would you start with slow-speach videos?
BernardoH: unless they want to work in the UN
BernardoH: maybe
RyanDe: You could build that application that you are talking about
with Adobe Flash. -or-hire someone to do it.
BernardoH: with some shadowing exercises
RyanDe: The videos / lessons could get progressively faster, more
complicated etc
BernardoH: maybe
SergioMa: I would recommend the latter. Flash is tricky.
SergioMa: I am told.
RyanDe: It could be a set of resources that you develop or pay to have
developed for use over several years. Yes?
BernardoH: that's one way to go...
RyanDe: It is, Sergio. Miles away from from plug and play.
LauraZu joined the room.
RyanDe: Hi Laura
SergioMa: Hi, Laura
BernardoH: hi laura
RyanDe: Are you here for the evo video chat?
LauraZu: no...i'm just searching for my class
BernardoH: it would be some sort of interactive video, user freindly
RyanDe: Well, Bernardo, sounds like you are interested in developing
video-based resources for lab/class use rather than student video
production. But..
SergioMa: Laura,people at the reception should be able to help you
RyanDe: Maybe they could demonstrate "simultaneous interpretation" on
video?
RyanDe: Would that be possible?
SergioMa: That would be cool!
BernardoH: I'm not a programmer
LauraZu: what are you all here for?
RyanDe: We're participants of an online session... just chatting :)
BernardoH: what course are u looking for?
LauraZu: well...I didn't mean that I'm litarally searching for them
(lol)....I'm searching tapped in as a requirement for the course.
SergioMa: You will not find your course here, that's for sure
SergioMa: You should go to the reception
RyanDe: Sergio, let's talk more about this platform of interculltural
communication in the coming weeks. I think there is a lot of room for
collaboration there.
SergioMa: Yes, I am all ears
RyanDe: Laura, what is the class that you are taking?
RyanDe: Communications?
LauraZu: special problems in instructional technology.
LauraZu: i'm a special education teacher and I'm taking courses in IT.
SergioMa: That's not here
LauraZu: thanks.
RyanDe: yeah.. that's not here. sorry. I don't know TI well enough to
point you in the right direction. Maybe David or BJB in the reception
area can be of more help.
BernardoH: try MTEC-AC_Grp
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SergioMa: Ryan, you were sayiing...
RyanDe: Bernardo, what about that idea of having your students
translate on the fly -- on video?
RyanDe: I think I've got it. Let me type this out...
BernardoH: specify "fly"
SergioMa: Maybe on the fly would result in a great big noise on camera
SergioMa: But perhaps a little consecutive interpretation may look
impressive
BernardoH: better
SergioMa: Your students xcould get personal satisfaction
SergioMa: A feeling of achievement
SergioMa: by appearing on video doiung that
BernardoH: My idea is that a student could be watching a presentation
on video and be able to switch languages with a tool embeded on the
video screen
RyanDe: I was thinking you could edit together a couple clips. Spanish
and English, into one video. There could be different versions of this
video. A/ B/ C/
BernardoH: with a link
SergioMa: I see, that is your project, but I was thinking of your
students producing a video to motivate others
RyanDe: You're students could watch the video in the lab -- the part
that is in Spanish, they'd translate to English, and when the video
switched to English, they'd jump into Spanish.. If you recorded their
translations... would that work as a decent tool for practice?
FlorNM joined the room.
FlorNM: Hi
RyanDe: Hi Flor :)
BernardoH: Hi flor
RyanDe: Are you here for the evo video chat?
RyanDe: any how.. Bernardo.. that might be an easier way of going about
it.
FlorNM: I have not video cameras and I don't know what evo means
SergioMa: Then, you are in the wrong room
BernardoH: The students could watch the video in Spanish, then exercise
a summary in English and then check the English interpretation
RyanDe: OK flor. You're welcome to hang out.
RyanDe: sounds like the beginning of several good ideas.
SergioMa: Doesn't it?
SergioMa: I love this seminar. I wish it never ended
BernardoH: your idea of several copies of the same video but with
different audio might work
FlorNM left the room.
RyanDe: If you got a speach online -- the same speach -- say a UN
speach or the like, and you found two versions of this speach, that is, one
in English and anotther in Spanish (translated) -- you could import
those clips into Movie Maker and edit several versions.
RyanDe: The idea is, that instead of creating an application that
allows the student to switch the audio, you edit together a video that has
those audio changes hardwired.
SergioMa: For example, I read the stuff on photography Ryan
recommended, went out, and took the best shots in my life (not that they are
great, but there is improvement!)
BernardoH: yes the UN page is full of different language versions with
the same speaker
RyanDe smiles
RyanDe: can you download them?
BernardoH: I'll try one out
BernardoH: no
SergioMa: You can do a screen capture
RyanDe: hmmm... well, we'll have to find other sources.
BernardoH: you could use close caption on cable tv
RyanDe: Sergio, could you recommend a screen capture software?
RyanDe: Sergio, very glad to hear you followed up on golden hour and
color temperature.
SergioMa: I do not use one, but I can get back to you on this. There
are people who do
SergioMa: Thanks, Ryan
RyanDe: Bernardo, maybe next week if I have a chance I'll see if I can
find something and put together an example of what I mean.
BernardoH: are there problems with copyrights?
RyanDe: yes, most likely.
SergioMa: If you put the stuff on the web, yes
BernardoH: that's why it might be preferable to do my own
translations..
RyanDe: That would work very well too.
BernardoH: that would be great Ryan
RyanDe: You could record a speach in Spanish with clean audio. Then, in
editing, you could mute the videos audio track and lay down your own
translation in english. Then, export that video as "Speach_2"
RyanDe: Then, you could open a new project and import both "Speach_1"
and "Speach_2".
RyanDe: The video will be the same. Only the audio will be different.
BernardoH: and then follow with a comprehension quizz
RyanDe: You could have the first 20 seconds of the video be in Spanish,
the cut to English, then back.. etc.
BernardoH: I was thinking it might be better to follow paragraph
structure, rather than sentence structure
SergioMa: I would agree on that
BernardoH: 20 seconds is too short
RyanDe: Chaging subjects because I have to go soon.... Sergio, Kayo and
I will be flying to Japan in March. Would be great to meet, but I think
Nagasaki is too far to travel in the short amount of time that we'll be
there...
BernardoH: 1 minute to 1 and a half
RyanDe: At least the idea is there :)
RyanDe: Hope that helps. I think you could develop it in several
ways...
SergioMa: I see. I would also like to meet you. How long would you be
here for?
RyanDe: Glad to help. I love brainstorming
BernardoH: well, it's been a good session
RyanDe: I'll only be there for four days. Kayo will stay for a month
or two.
RyanDe: Yes it really has Bernardo!
SergioMa: An excellent one as far as I am concerned
RyanDe: Thanks so much for coming!
SergioMa: Thank you Ryan and Bernardo
BernardoH: thank you both, Ryan and Sergio
RyanDe: I too have to go soon. Thank you both Bernardo and Sergio! :)
BernardoH: So do I, have a nice weekend in SF
RyanDe: OK. Dinner calls. Let's pick this up again next Saturday. Yes?
SergioMa: I look forward to seeing you both on Yahoo Groups and on my
new site! Please register. Bye
BernardoH: great
RyanDe: I will. Chow
BernardoH: I will do so
BernardoH: Chao
RyanDe waves
SergioMa: Thanks a lot. Bye!
SergioMa left the room (signed off).
BernardoH left the room (signed off).
RyanDe left the room.
Room: TI_Reception
RyanDe joined the room.
RyanDe: Hey Jeff. Just dropped in to say hello. Our meeting went very
well. Thank much for TI!
RyanDe signing off for dinner
RyanDe left the room (signed off).
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